Cedar Avenue is releasing their debut full-length album Someday Soon this Saturday, December 12th at The Varsity Theater with The Alarmists, This World Fair, and Will Hutchinson supporting. I sat down with Jesse, Derrin, and Shawn from Cedar Avenue one afternoon before a recent rehearsal as they prepared for their CD release show.

Mike: First off, let’s talk about how the band came together and how you all met originally.

Jesse: At Eastview [High School] we were all band nerds. Which was kinda cool at Eastview, because band nerds weren’t the lowest on the hierarchy of social-ness there… (half-joking) I think it was senior year I picked up guitar. Left for college… and then I came back summer after freshman year having learned how to play guitar and sing a little bit. And because of a past girl that I dated in high school, I had a free ticket to basically record at Atomic K studios. She just gave me it as a nice, friendly present, she’s a fellow songwriter. I’d written one song at this point, and Kyle was the only bass player that I knew. So I said, “Hey Kyle, let’s go write a song and do a free recording.” So after that recording, based on the reception we got we decided to be a band, in about 2003. And then we had Derrin join the band years later…

Derrin: Wait, when did I actually join the band? Senior year of college?

Jesse: Yeah, senior year of college. Kyle and I had been writing back and forth, trying to write back and forth electronically. I would make a WAV file, send it to him, he would do bass back in Minnesota; which is why our band name is Cedar Avenue. Because it’s kind of where I was sending the ideas, and then they’d come back to me [in California] from Cedar Avenue. I was in Santa Barbara for college. Derrin technically joined the band in 2005, 2006?

Derrin: When we recorded “After All”, right? That’s the first time I did anything with the band?

Jesse: Yeah, that sounds official.

Derrin: It was this art CD at our school that you could apply to get into to get a free recording. So we applied with one of songs and got in, so I was on that recording.

Jesse: So it happened in pieces, first [it was] me and Kyle, then years later Derrin. Derrin and I got married, moved back here to Minneapolis, and then we were kind of at a standstill, like a plateau with the band. And then I was at a Copeland concert and saw Shawn. Shawn was a fellow band nerd from long ago. I was like, “You have a drumline jacket on even?” (Derrin laughs) “…Wait a second, do you play drums? Come see our show at this random art gallery place, I’m trying to start a band basically.” We had some material at this point because Kyle and I had been writing as best we could through college.

Shawn: Well the EP [Running Home] was done at that point, right?

Jesse: Yeah, that’s right. Mark Betters, my drumline instructor, was the original drummer for Cedar Avenue. At that point Derrin was not in it when we recorded it in 2005… so Derrin officially joined in 2006. After I saw Copeland in November 2006, Shawn came and saw us at a show. For some reason he liked the live show, I dunno why, I think we were pretty boring and terrible. (joking) He’s pretty cynical too, so to this day it’s still a mystery as to why he liked us. (also joking, Derrin laughs)

Derrin: Which show was that? The coffee shop?

Jesse: No, it was a random art gallery, I forget what it was. Then Shawn had this school project he was working on and came over here and recorded with us…

Derrin: …quotation, “School project”… if there was a real one. (laughs)

Jesse: …and after just hanging out with him and getting a feel for his personality—cause that’s just a huge part of whoever we wanted in the band basically—we grew to love Shawn right away. “You would totally fit in with our crew.” Biggest thing is he’s not a jerk at all, so… (Derrin laughs) …and then I found out soon after—I think Shawn found out at this point too—that he could write drumset music. That was kind of what was in question: “Can this guy even write a good drumset part?” We started jamming to some new ideas and some old ones that Kyle and I had worked on, and that’s when Shawn joined in 2006.

Mike: Tell me about some of the inspiration and influences that you guys have for your music. Tell me about the songwriting process and how that’s evolved ever since the band began with you [Jesse] and Kyle, and then Derrin coming in, and then Shawn also coming in.

Derrin: Well, it all starts with Jesse. I mean, it starts with his ideas messing around with the acoustic guitar, I’m hearing them and I’m saying, “Oh oh oh, I like that a lot!” [or] “Mmm, don’t like that so much.”

Jesse: …which is a big part of the songwriting process. Derrin is the most “critical” of the people that aren’t me… (half-joking)

Derrin: I’m the first reviewer.

Shawn (joking): And always around.

Derrin: And always around, yes. (laughs)

Jesse: …so if I get it by her, that means it might be hip enough (Derrin laughs) to later on go, “Yes, this was good!” in retrospect.

Derrin: And I think about the songs for a couple days too sometimes. Some of them, I’ll forget, some of them I just can’t remember. And then others, it’s right away stuck in my head; I’m singing it, I’m craving to hear it. “Play that one song again with that guitar-picky part.” So anyways, that’s stage one.

Jesse: And sometimes stage one, or ground zero for a song, is me and Kyle just in the practice room, just roaming around chords and notes. If I hear something I like, “Oh, let’s do this,” and then I’ll start singing to it and then it evolves from there. So it either starts alone in my room, or us just jamming out. As far as influences go, Kyle is a really melodic bass player. So he’s been listening to Victor Wooten and guys like that for a long time. His original influences are in jazz, so it’s easy to get inspired by some of his bass parts because he’s playing lots of different notes. And I’ll start going, “Let’s take a journey down whatever road you were going on,” and then we’ll start just jamming on something together.

Derrin: What did he play in high school? He was like, a tuba player?

Jesse: Tuba, he’s an amazing tuba player. He almost went pro with it. (Jesse and Derrin laugh)

Shawn: Kyle’s always playing too, he just always has a big database of ideas. We’ll be trying to discuss an idea, and he’ll be hacking along over there and always churning out music. So a lot of the ideas or the chords might start with him just because he keeps thinking and playing and inventing this riffs, chords, notes and whatever. So much comes off it, and we’ll filter through and find what we like. Certain parts of our songs have been based around things that he’s done. But that’s kind of the whole process that we have.

Derrin: When we get in the practice room, and Jesse and Kyle say, “This is what we’ve been messing with lately,” or “This is the idea that I had and this is what Kyle added to it.” And so they show it to Shawn and I, and we just start playing stuff. We all just add in, and sometimes if don’t like a certain part we’ll vote on it…

Shawn: Often actually.

Derrin: Yeah, we do vote a lot.

Shawn: …we’ll say, “Here’s A, here’s B.” And we try and keep it objective; this is not the old one, these are two ideas, who likes which one? And that is kind of the filter for everything. Two will say this way, or three will say this way…

Derrin: And Jesse has vetoing power, just cause he’s the leader of the band. We all do give him that, but he usually wants everybody to vote because he really cares if somebody doesn’t like a part.

Jesse: I usually write with the rule that, if one or two people just in the room that I’m in presently are so-so about a certain part that I’m creating or writing or adding onto, then it’s probably not good enough to go on the record.

Shawn: And not just the lyrics or the melodies too. If I have a question on a drum part, or Kyle has something that he’s writing, or anything like a keyboard noise or patch. It’s not just melody and the same rule I think applies; that if a certain something doesn’t impress everyone, then people that are far more critical outside of that room are gonna pass on it far more than the band who’s writing, [it has to be us] that likes what we’re doing.

Derrin: Yeah, I didn’t even ever listen to drums ever in my life. Now I can actually go, “Hey, I like that drum beat!” or “I don’t like that one.” So it’s been fun getting to know the other instruments.

Jesse: Oh yeah, influences? I’m probably more influenced by producers—I don’t even know their names—than I am by artists cause I’m a pretty fair-weather fan of artists. If there’s a band that I like and they come out with a CD, I’m usually the kind of person who’ll say, “I love these three tracks, some of the best tracks ever written. The rest of them are complete crap.” And then they could release another CD; could be the best thing in the world. They could release another CD; could be the worst piece of crap ever. And I’m okay with that. So basically what I’m trying to say is that, I’m a fan of songs, a lot of times, and not artists. Which makes me think I’m actually more influenced by producers than actual artists. Cause usually artists are churning out at least something similar, and then producers are the people that—just given the quality that my ear always goes to—they’re the people that I think are making what I’m actually liking. For instance, Jack’s Mannequin. Don’t like, overall, the music very much. But, “Annie Use Your Telescope” is one of my favorite songs ever. Partly, I think in a lot of ways, just because of some of the producing flavors in there.

Derrin: And they would only have that producer for that one song, is that what you’re saying?

Jesse: For the album, yeah, but then they’ll have different people mix and different people produce certain songs. A lot of times producers will work on the whole album, but I guess what I’m trying to say is that my influences are hard to say because I don’t know a lot of their names.

Derrin: Yeah, but what are our favorite bands?

Jesse: Favorite artists? Probably Jimmy Eat World; originally, Dashboard Confessional, I know it’s kind of lame to say… (laughs)

Derrin (laughing): Whatever, we loved him.

Jesse: …I really like just good pop music. That’s my favorite, stuff that I just have like a sugar fix [for]… again and again and again until I get my fix. And that’s the kind of music I’m drawn to. Usually that has to do with lots of money and really good producing, unfortunately. (laughs again)

Derrin: We’re pretty big fans of Augustana. I’m definitely into emo-rock, Jimmy Eat World is one of my favorites. What about you Shawn?

Shawn: I listen to lots of different stuff. Everything from Copeland, to Mae, Relient K, to cheesy pop radio stuff like Green River Ordinance. It varies from a drumming perspective. I was originally most influenced by Travis Barker [Blink 182] back when I was 15 and all drummers idolized to be him; most still do. But just the creativity that he brings to drumming, and then certain albums like The Everglow by Mae, I think the drumming is absolutely brilliant. The Reign of Kindo does things that are very different, and I like drummers that have a creative, different approach and try and avoid the very stock approaches; the drums that would seem obvious to fit. Which is unusual because the kind of music that we do usually requires that, so it’s trying to fight a battle between not being too left-field but not being super-boring. And if you’re a studio drummer and you’re writing pop music, your mission is to be the most predictable, tight drummer ever and that’s all your role is. It’s fighting a battle, and there’s some drummers that do it really well that I enjoy, like the guy from Mae.

Derrin: Did we talk about Kyle’s influence? Jazz, Victor Wooten?

Shawn: He likes Counting Crows a bunch.

Derrin: He likes Counting Crows. And Dave Matthews Band. (laughs)

Jesse: And Kyle and I, we actually generally like the same music but I don’t even know if our past past influences directly influenced the album that we just created. But they might have.

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Mike: Let’s talk about recording the album, because you guys actually went down to Oklahoma to do it. So tell me about how you came to that decision, what it was like working down there, and who you worked with down there to make your album?

Derrin: Well, it was one night at The Fineline…

Jesse: We opened for Graham Colton, he’s a poppy troubadour acoustic guy. Some good stuff; good songwriter. And we saw his electric guitar player rock the stage off. Afterwards, I spoke with him and I said, “Dude, you are awesome at guitar, thank you for the show!” And then he responded, “Hey, cool. Are you guys recording anytime soon?” “Yes, we’re looking for studios.” “Awesome, well I co-own a studio, and I’m a producer, and I’m an electric guitar player (obviously)…”

Shawn (joking): “…and everything.”

Derrin (laughing): “And I played 50 other instruments…”

Jesse: “Well great! What are your prices?” They were very reasonable, so we went down to Oklahoma and recorded at Blackwatch Studios. Worked with Jarod Evans mainly and a couple of his other contacts down there. And it turned out to be a really great, very reasonably-priced experience. And we’re really happy that we did it.

Derrin: What were we down there for, three weeks?

Jesse: Yep, three weeks.

Derrin: Three weeks; and it was cram-oh’d. We did not get everything done by any means. (laughs)

Jesse: Probably the most stress I’ve been [under] in a long time. I was up till 10 AM sometimes editing my own vocals. I was tasked with the job of doing all my own vocal editing. I had never used Pro Tools before this, and so I’m working on this like $18,000 project and I’m freaking out because the Red Bull is running out, and I…

Derrin (laughing a bit): The vocals are probably one of the most important things, that they turn out right.

Jesse: Especially in a pop album, or alt-pop-rock, whatever you wanna call it. And so yeah, it was stressful, but I definitely would choose to go with Blackwatch Studios over any complications or stress that we had; they did a great job.

Derrin: Maybe give ourselves one more week. (laughs) Because we weren’t planning on doing vocals ourselves, and then we just did not have time. We worked for 2 1/2 weeks and it was not getting done. So he [producer] says basically, “Here’s Pro Tools, and I’ll set up your mics…” Our day was done at 3 in the morning, so then we had to start at 3 in the morning with our vocals. (laughing a bit)

Shawn: He would leave the studio around midnight-ish, and then we would stay there and start recording at 1:30 AM. We just slept there; there was nothing [else] for us to do. I slept in the piano room and we had mattresses and stuff. But the main Pro Tools console was being used like 23 hours a day. And then he would walk in, and then Jesse and I would go to sleep, and then he would work. We’d wake up at 4 PM and eat dinner-breakfast and then start recording instruments. So it was long, many many long days.

Jesse: Super-fun, but super-tough.

Derrin (laughing a bit): Lots of Diet Coke; lots of Red Bull.

Jesse: This guy Jarod consumed more Diet Coke and aspartame that I’d ever seen anyone consume in my entire life. (Derrin laughs)

Derrin (laughing): It was incredible.

Shawn (joking): Like three of those gas station milk jugs. Like huge, it was ridiculous… (Derrin continues to laugh)

Jesse: He said we worked him harder than any artist before. He said also that he gave us more artistic freedom and leeway than any artist that he worked with before. We’re a very, very opinionated band; we try not to be cynical and too judgmental, but as far as when it comes to our own music, we’re very critical about it. Our goal for this album was every second of it enjoyable for someone that likes this kind of music. So that took a lot of work and a lot of time but we’re really proud of it.

Mike: Tell me about some of your favorite shows that you guys have played. You’ve had a lot of great opportunities to play with national artists [A Fine Frenzy, Augustana, Graham Colton] and local artists. So, just tell me about a few of your favorite shows.

Derrin: I think you just named them. (laughs)

Jesse: Yeah, at those big shows where you get really talented bands that not only are talented—like some Minneapolis bands that we’ve played with—but also having [the ability to] draw, draw a huge crowd. That’s when it’s really fun I think because the “mob mentality” crowd energy is so much bigger. Like for me, I’m not a natural “stage guy”; in fact I hated the spotlight for a long time. Now it’s doable…

Derrin: Yeah me too, haha.

Jesse: So when you have that many people all just ready to laugh at anything, or when you have constantly someone always cheering about something…

Derrin (half-joking): …They have alcohol in their blood, it helps.

Jesse: It just makes everything—with that big of a crowd—easier, at least for me.

Derrin: With that many people it’s not as awkward. You don’t have the awkward silences and the awkward space. “Hey person 30 feet away from me, you’re talking to your friend…” Instead, everybody’s focused and pressed-up against the stage, and that has such an amazing, powerful air. Like our Augustana concert, it took somebody like me who really doesn’t like being on the stage, and I thought, “This is fun! I feel like it’s my birthday or something, everybody’s excited to see me!” (joking) So that was a great show.

Jesse: And I think with audiences when you have like 30 to 50 people, I think it’s at least kind of awkward for me, because I think people in the audience are wondering if I am thinking if this is a letdown or disappointment. Which it never is, I never care too much about numbers for just the sole reason of success. So anyways, to have that out of the way, where people aren’t wondering if I’m disappointed… (Derrin laughs) Augustana, that was amazing. Definitely one of our favorite bands, it was great to talk with the band and to talk with Dan Layus. To hear about their travels and just what’s going through their mind as far as their success and what’s next for them. Also, one of my favorite shows was actually the last show that we played at The Fineline because it was my first show playing with Justin [Lansdowne], our new guitar player. I just can’t say enough good things about him, he’s so good, so talented. And I just had lots of fun rocking out, personally.

Derrin: And he’s an added vocalist, so that adds some flavor. What about you Shawn?

Shawn: Yeah, all those shows were enjoyable, Augustana… We honestly haven’t played that much, so we haven’t done a show in a year-ish. We’ve done some local shows and they’ve been great, we just haven’t had a chance where wanted to play much. We had an EP that was good but just old and dated, and essentially a different sound. And so we never put any effort into getting shows or playing shows up until now. So obviously I’m really looking forward to the show on Saturday. Not only because I love the bands and their music, I’m excited to play cause they’re our friends. So it’ll be good to play with local bands that are talented, fun friends. A lot of our other local shows were just random bands or weird bills, but we’re excited to play more, around here and elsewhere.

Derrin: We felt weird before having shows, and then we were like, “We have this demo that is from years ago that you can buy if you want to?” It just felt weird, we weren’t super-excited cause Shawn’s not on it, I wasn’t on it. It’s kind of our band. And now we’re gonna have this sweet album that we’re really proud of selling, worth the money, and we actually play the songs that are on it.

Jesse: I think the band mentality right now is that we’re looking forward to playing our best shows, and learning how to play live is now our task. Before, we were just basically taking our practices on stage and just trying to play music. But now I think we’re gonna discover what it is to be live performers, which none of us are great at right now but we’re excited to learn what that is like and hopefully have some of our best and favorite shows to come.

Shawn: I think one of the biggest things to really enjoy about a band is to know their music, go listen to their music you know, and enjoy the music that you know. And when the music part of the equation is taken out—which it was for us before we had a CD—I’m amazed that anyone would care about us at all, and there weren’t many people that did anyways. (half-joking) But, why someone would go and just hear the live music that’s never been recorded—there’s a certain allure to that—but to really get devoted to a band without a CD or with music that they don’t play is kind of a ridiculous feat. So it’s great that people enjoyed us before, but this is kind of the start… the biggest part of the equation—the music— was not there.

Mike: How has the Minneapolis music scene influenced you guys? Basically, through the bands that you know and the people that you’ve met.

Shawn: For me, obviously living with two, three-ish other bands [in my house], I’m around that environment. I know when their shows are coming up and I want to see my roommates and my best friends. Obviously the guys from Roster McCabe are huge when they’re home. But we’re running around, people are sending out press releases, making stickers, folding shirts, putting in boxes, hauling gear, everything. That’s the environment that I live in, which is very different from everyone else in the band. So I’m kind of the odd man out cause I just go out to more shows and I naturally just know more people cause they’re over hanging out or whatever. I definitely go to Ari [Herstand], Gabe [Douglas, member of The 4onthefloor and The Fontanelles], and all those guys for advice on proper show etiquette, press release/press kits/one-sheets, or whatever just because they have more experience with that stuff. So they’ve been great supporters as friends and bandmates, but also very influential in the business side of our band because I ask them any questions that I have. They’ve been there and they’re still learning too, but they have so much more knowledge than me or anyone in our band, so they also influence the back end of the band in that way as well.

Jesse: I’ve been surprised at the level of generosity and kindness that we’ve received from the local bands in Minneapolis. I think when I first started playing around Minneapolis, I expected band people to be a little more cold, a little more independent and exclusive. But from the first time we played, I’ve felt accepted with open arms and that people wanna work with us—even though we didn’t have a fanbase—they wanted to collaborate any way they could. So that’s left an impression on me…

Mike: As the band has evolved over the years and new members have come into the fold, how would you say that your sound, and image, and your ideas have really evolved since the beginning when it was basically you and Kyle?

Jesse: I used to take a more troubadour approach to writing. I used to think that I should come up with a song foundation, and then meet individually with band members and basically micromanage their parts. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that as long as everyone’s cool with that, and I think the people in Cedar Avenue would be reasonably okay with that kind of thing. And they were sometimes for this album. But overall, my approach has evolved into, the best music I think comes out of being inspired by each other, with synergy happening all at the same time in rehearsal. So if I start jamming on an idea or if Kyle starts jamming on an idea, and one of us likes it enough, then that liking or affinity to that idea will inspire you to make something great. And then once you can make something great on top of it, hopefully if it gets by Derrin, or me, or the next person and they like the combined idea of those other two people, then they’ll add their layer. And then once we have four layers going on, that’s when I feel comfortable taking it into the room alone. Taking it down, getting out my Garage Band or my minidisc recorder and really crafting a song out of an idea. So that’s when I really like to bottle the magic that happened in rehearsal. The way we all conduct writing songs has changed… I’d rather be inspired in practice and then go and start writing the song from those ideas we made originally.

Shawn: To go along with that, I think there’s something really cool, and different, and special about four people using four minds to work on four parts that everyone’s invested in… to make music that’s great with their band. [It's better] than having a guy make a pretty-complete song, and then hiring a guy who’s doing it either for the money, fame, or whatever outside influences. There’s nothing invested [in that]. There’s nothing that we can do this for other than to make good music. There’s no alternative motives; when you have four minds making four instruments or more, I think you just get that much more power, those many more gates to go through for approvals. Four heads are better than one.

Derrin: I don’t know if you’d say this is right Jesse, but I think Shawn and I being part of the band definitely adds a different influence just in the kind of music we like. I don’t know how else to call it, but we’re just a little more emo in our music tastes. And so, I don’t know what that does, but I think it changes our music a little bit, as opposed to you and Kyle.

Jesse: I’m very influenced by anybody, whether it be my mom, or sister, or fellow band members if they like something or don’t like something. It definitely inevitably changes the way we write and create.

Shawn: I think also with having four creative bodies working on music together, it makes the music be as different as it can be. Whereas, if you have for example 30 people trying to make one song, it’s gonna sound really different and really weird, and probably too weird. Versus if you have one guy who likes one kind of music and one artist, there’s a better chance that’s just gonna be a replicated version. I just like the influence of everyone doing something different and putting their own musical backgrounds in. Cause everyone’s journey is different; what artists’ are like, what stuff they do/don’t like. Just everyone’s new influence adds a little edge somewhere, whether it’s one note, a style, a sound, a drumhead, or whatever.

Mike: What can we expect from your CD release show on Saturday? What are you going to be doing at the show, do you have any surprises? And do you have any future plans beyond this? Do you guys want to get out, do you want to tour beyond the Twin Cities? Or what do you want to do next?

Jesse: [For the] CD release show, a surprise for us… you can expect some fun parts of covers or a specific cover we’ve worked on that I think is very fun and a very cool surprise at the CD release. And you can expect us to have six people on stage [with Justin Lansdowne on electric guitar and Randy Tomes on additional keyboards], which is different for us if you’ve seen us live before. So it’ll be a bigger sound and trying to make it more of a rocking experience. Something that someone can go away from the night going, “Wow, that was fun!” rather than just “That was good music.” It’s just a different thing to have a wall of sound coming at you rather than just enjoying a nice, well-written song. Also, This World Fair and The Alarmists are playing, and Will Hutchinson. Those are all great bands, so I’m excited for that. A lot of times we’ll go to shows or play in shows and there’s sort-of mediocre acts for most of the show. I don’t think there will be for this one, I think it’ll just be awesome writing and live stuff the whole time. As far as future, I can’t speak for the whole band, which is kind of odd… (Derrin laughs) that we’re not like totally on the same page. Not that we disagree, our direction hasn’t fully fleshed itself out yet. But I’d like to find a great manager… and then try to move forward… basically get our music out to as many people as we can. I think that would involve doing live shows on different radio stations—maybe in different states—playing at college campuses, and going on the road maybe a little bit too. So whatever we have to do to get our music out that we are proud of at this point, I wanna do that. And right now I think management is a good course for that…

Derrin: We’re just taking it as it comes because we don’t know exactly how people are going to react to our music or how much of a reaction there’s gonna be. Kind of up in the air for the next couple years I guess. (laughs)

Jesse: And if we get the general impression that people don’t like the album, we’ll probably quit. (laughs)

Derrin: Yeah, even if it’s just mediocre, we probably won’t stay in this.

Jesse: Which, I think we’re all are kind of even-keel in that regard. The moment we stop; we realize that we’re not able to create something that people find to be fantastic or special to their lives or special to their soundtrack. I think that’s a good time to call it quits, even if it’s just at the beginning like this.

Derrin: Especially because we all have other things that we’re doing that we like. It’s not like we’re putting all of our eggs in the band’s basket; we all have other careers. But yeah, I think we’re all up for touring, but we don’t really know when that’s gonna happen or who through we’re gonna tour, or whatever.

Jesse: I wanna tour! (band laughs)

Shawn: With this album, we spent enough time, money, sweat, etcetera on it to know that we did everything in our absolute power to make the best music we ever can. And it would be different—like on the EP—where it was, “Oh, we worked hard, and we did some stuff, and that’s that.” But it’s literally been 2 to 3 years of us going in that room over there almost every night—and getting the cops called on us multiple times (Derrin laughs)—just to write 34 minutes of music. So if we kind of half-assed it then it’d be different, but this is the best that we can do right now. It’s not like we can blame it on anything else and say, “Maybe next time around, ‘A’ will be different, or ‘B’, or whatever.” (Derrin laughs again) This is kind of it, but hopefully people will say, “I love this!” And then if so, we’ll gain all the money back that is severely lacking right now. (more laughs from Derrin)

Jesse (half-joking): We dove in head-first with this project, and if we hit a rock then we’re gonna die, and that’s okay. (Shawn laughs) But if we end up swimming at the end, then great!

Derrin (laughing): If we can make a living at all.

Shawn: So yeah, maybe tour, I guess we’ll see what the reaction’s like and go from there. It’s a huge guessing game at this point. (laughs)

Links

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posted December 11th, 2009 at 2:59 pm MN Rock Cedar Avenue